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		<title>&#8220;Our technician, Mark will call you back&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Kelemen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had another DSL outage today that lasted about 8 hours. My network automatically switched over to dial-up, so I called my provider and got through to a pleasant lady who I will call Linda.
I tell her that I&#8217;m calling from Eastern Ontario (a very beautiful place, check it out sometime). &#8220;Sorry sir, we don&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had another DSL outage today that lasted about 8 hours. My network automatically switched over to dial-up, so I called my <a href="http://www.bell.ca" target="_blank">provider</a> and got through to a pleasant lady who I will call Linda.</p>
<p>I tell her that I&#8217;m calling from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousand_Islands" target="_self">Eastern Ontario</a> (a very beautiful place, check it out sometime). &#8220;Sorry sir, we don&#8217;t go by geography you&#8217;ll have to tell me your &#8216;b1&#8242; number.&#8221; Now, all that mattered to me was to know if there was an outage and how long before it would be fixed. That&#8217;s all I needed to know. It might be a 20 second call, 30 tops. [Note to ISP: there's this new thingy called the World Wide Web; you could put network status, outage information and expected resolution time up on your website, have a text-only version available that I can access from a low-speed connection or my mobile phone. This would answer my question and keep me happy.]</p>
<p>After sighing deeply I gave Linda my &#8220;b1&#8243; number. Now I&#8217;ve been a customer (actually &#8220;captive&#8221; is more like it) of this ISP company for almost eight (8!) years and the question I get asked is: &#8220;Is the cord between your modem and computer less than six feet long?&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess my pronounced laugh startled Linda because there was dead silence on the other end. I proceeded to explain that I laughed because I found it funny that in eight years they hadn&#8217;t bothered to record this information anywhere in their files. I understand they want to ensure no changes on my setup, but couldn&#8217;t they ask that instead?</p>
<p>Anyhow, my question was whether or not there were any network problems. &#8220;I will need to get some security information from you sir before I can talk to you.&#8221; It&#8217;s like I was entering customs at the airport or going to visit someone in prison (not that I&#8217;ve ever been).</p>
<p>It took a few minutes to give her the information she needed, then I was told &#8220;Ok, Greg I have to talk with my supervisor so she can get the answer to your question.&#8221; Huh? Why don&#8217;t CSRs have a display that tells them how the network is doing? Remember to breathe Greg.</p>
<p>After almost three minutes on hold (yes I timed it), Linda comes back on the line and tells me that yes there is a problem &#8211; &#8220;do you live anywhere near <a href="http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=innisfil,+ontario&amp;sll=49.891235,-97.15369&amp;sspn=35.779204,56.865234&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;cd=1&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=Innisfil,+Simcoe+County,+Ontario&amp;z=10" target="_blank">Innisfil</a>?&#8221; (No I don&#8217;t, I live almost 300 Km east of it!) Again, are you kidding me? I went through two minutes of security questions giving you my life story and you still can&#8217;t correlate my location with the location of the outage?</p>
<p>All of this is frustrating but the next bit is what really got me. Linda tells me that the company has technicians working to resolve the problem and that &#8220;Mark&#8221; will call me back to let me know when it has been resolved. I get a reference number to seal the deal. Now this kind of makes me feel warm and fuzzy.</p>
<p>My call with Linda took place around noon and the outage lasted until just after 2pm Eastern. But guess what? Mark did not call back!</p>
<p>Then it hits me: this is the inbound call centre version of the form letter you get from Nancy at the bank when you&#8217;re late with a payment. There is no Nancy. And there is no Mark. He will not call you back.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t what kind of training the company&#8217;s CSRs are getting, but it seemed to me that if you&#8217;re going to make a promise to a Customer you should keep it. Even if Mark can&#8217;t call me back because he&#8217;s been re-routed to another issue, Linda could. If this is indeed what they&#8217;re doing it&#8217;s more manipulation than true Customer service. I know Linda must have sensed my frustration. So is it any wonder that there is such high turnover at call centres?</p>
<p>It must be costing the ISP a bundle to go through the same procedure every time a customer calls. I should let it go but I see it too often and have to wonder: what were they thinking?</p>
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		<title>You can&#8217;t do that from here</title>
		<link>http://www.gregkelemen.com/2008/03/07/sorry-you-cant-do-that-from-here/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Kelemen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Overheard at a major Canadian book store in Ottawa yesterday-

Customer: &#8220;Can I use your kiosk to access the wish list I created on your website?&#8221;
Employee: &#8220;No, they&#8217;re just for ordering. Sorry.&#8221;
This company has gone to great expense to build a website and brand. This site lets customers like you and I to create wish lists [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica">Overheard at a major Canadian book store in Ottawa yesterday-<br />
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<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica">Customer: &#8220;Can I use your kiosk to access the wish list I created on your website?&#8221;</span></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Employee: &#8220;No, they&#8217;re just for ordering. Sorry.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This company has gone to great expense to build a website and brand. This site lets customers like you and I to create wish lists of items (in this case books and CDs).</p>
<p>This just doesn&#8217;t make sense to me. Does this company see the web as something different from its bricks and mortar stores? I suspect they do.</p>
<p>However to me, the Customer, it&#8217;s all part of the same buying experience. Why can&#8217;t I access my wish list from any store? For that matter, why can&#8217;t the employees also be given access to that info so that when I come into a particular store they can greet with more than the standard &#8220;Hello, can I help you find something?&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course you can! It just takes a different perspective, seeing things from the Customer&#8217;s point of view of the buying experience.</p>
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